Comments on: Old news – The muslim woman cafe/shop/beauty salon. http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/old-news-the-muslim-woman-cafeshopbeauty-salon/ Muslim girl with a passion for veiled fashion! Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:54:48 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: haneen S. Ali http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/old-news-the-muslim-woman-cafeshopbeauty-salon/#comment-3743 haneen S. Ali Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:25:31 +0000 http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/?p=56#comment-3743 i..think..its..an..amazing..idea..at..last..some..freedom.and..by..the..way..thnx..4..this..remarkable..website..its..really..great..the..different..hijab..styles..makes..you..love..your..religion..more..and..more..and..seriously..thank..god..we..r..MUSLIMS.. : ) i..think..its..an..amazing..idea..at..last..some..freedom.and..by..the..way..thnx..4..this..remarkable..website..its..really..great..the..different..hijab..styles..makes..you..love..your..religion..more..and..more..and..seriously..thank..god..we..r..MUSLIMS.. : )

]]> By: Hisham http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/old-news-the-muslim-woman-cafeshopbeauty-salon/#comment-3369 Hisham Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:13:11 +0000 http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/?p=56#comment-3369 Hanan Turk is a hypocrite if she doesn't allow Christians nor unveiled women! Lets think with brains (if she got any) what if the Christian or the unveiled Muslim girl wants to meet Muslims girls and hear good stories?? GOD is this even legal???? Hanan Turk is a hypocrite if she doesn’t allow Christians nor unveiled women! Lets think with brains (if she got any) what if the Christian or the unveiled Muslim girl wants to meet Muslims girls and hear good stories??

GOD is this even legal????

]]> By: Coffee Catholic http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/old-news-the-muslim-woman-cafeshopbeauty-salon/#comment-172 Coffee Catholic Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:48:48 +0000 http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/?p=56#comment-172 I think Hanan Turk’s idea of this cafe/salon/shop is fantastic but the "no Christians allowed" and possibly also, "no unveiled women allowed" shows that somewhere along the line she lost the plot and her cafe/salon/shop became rather elitist. (Did I spell that right??) First of all, it's blatantly obvious that if this cafe place exists for a specific purpose, and it unapologetically sticks to that purpose without waivering, then those who are not interested in that purpose will eventually not bother coming back. (That would include women of other faiths and also unveiled women.) I mean, that's just human nature! Why bother hanging out with people with whom you do not share a common interest?? However, those women of other faiths/unveiled women who *do* keep coming back... who knows what God is working inside of their hearts, in seceret and unseen by the other women around them? More then likely if Christians or unveiled women kept coming back then the cafe/salon/shop has obviously planted seeds into their hearts and God is nurturing those seeds through the other veiled Muslim women in the establishment. Perhaps before one can revert to Islam or become a hijabi, they must first spend an amount of time with these things coming to maturation within their hearts and minds. It might take years before these ones veil or revert... but the opportunity to learn and to grow was there in that cafe/shop/salon! Sadly, if unveiled women and women of other faiths are barred from this cafe/shop/salon then this opportunity is lost and perhaps as the years pass so will the various women who *would* have reverted or taken up external hijab ... who knows, they might fall away from their faiths completely, both Islam and Christianity, because they were forbidden to join the veiled Muslim ladies who could have shown them and taught them so much. We never know when God is using us to work something in another person's heart and soul and mind!! Well, anyway, that's my humble opinion. Back to cleaning the house!! I think Hanan Turk’s idea of this cafe/salon/shop is fantastic but the “no Christians allowed” and possibly also, “no unveiled women allowed” shows that somewhere along the line she lost the plot and her cafe/salon/shop became rather elitist. (Did I spell that right??)

First of all, it’s blatantly obvious that if this cafe place exists for a specific purpose, and it unapologetically sticks to that purpose without waivering, then those who are not interested in that purpose will eventually not bother coming back. (That would include women of other faiths and also unveiled women.) I mean, that’s just human nature! Why bother hanging out with people with whom you do not share a common interest??

However, those women of other faiths/unveiled women who *do* keep coming back… who knows what God is working inside of their hearts, in seceret and unseen by the other women around them? More then likely if Christians or unveiled women kept coming back then the cafe/salon/shop has obviously planted seeds into their hearts and God is nurturing those seeds through the other veiled Muslim women in the establishment. Perhaps before one can revert to Islam or become a hijabi, they must first spend an amount of time with these things coming to maturation within their hearts and minds. It might take years before these ones veil or revert… but the opportunity to learn and to grow was there in that cafe/shop/salon!

Sadly, if unveiled women and women of other faiths are barred from this cafe/shop/salon then this opportunity is lost and perhaps as the years pass so will the various women who *would* have reverted or taken up external hijab … who knows, they might fall away from their faiths completely, both Islam and Christianity, because they were forbidden to join the veiled Muslim ladies who could have shown them and taught them so much. We never know when God is using us to work something in another person’s heart and soul and mind!!

Well, anyway, that’s my humble opinion. Back to cleaning the house!!

]]> By: basbousa http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/old-news-the-muslim-woman-cafeshopbeauty-salon/#comment-171 basbousa Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:11:31 +0000 http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/?p=56#comment-171 Same here, I think it's great that it's made especially for people that are veiled so that they have a place to go if they want to avoid mixed cafees. However, like you said, christians should be allowed in as well. I had some christian friends in Cairo that were actually very into Islam and had only muslim friends. I don't think they would like this at all, it would probably just make differences bigger between us, which is not good. "One catches more flies with hunny than with vinegar", right? Don't think I'm comparing people to flies, though :) Same here, I think it’s great that it’s made especially for people that are veiled so that they have a place to go if they want to avoid mixed cafees. However, like you said, christians should be allowed in as well. I had some christian friends in Cairo that were actually very into Islam and had only muslim friends. I don’t think they would like this at all, it would probably just make differences bigger between us, which is not good.

“One catches more flies with hunny than with vinegar”, right? Don’t think I’m comparing people to flies, though :)

]]> By: Alixianna http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/old-news-the-muslim-woman-cafeshopbeauty-salon/#comment-164 Alixianna Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:51:21 +0000 http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/?p=56#comment-164 I don't like that they said women of another faith weren't allowed in. A salon just for women is great, but what is that saying about Islam? That we are exclusive? Islam is a message for everyone, not just those already Muslim. There is dawah in seeing Muslim women being themselves just as there is in seeing how they pray. I became a Muslim because the girls in Oman weren't "exclusive" in their daily lives with me---they were willing to tell and show me just about anything. They didn't say, you can't come to this place because you aren't Muslim. That might have been such a negative experience for me that I might have stayed away from learning more about Islam. I might have concluded, even after hearing the beautiful cry of the adhan, that Islam is only for Arabs, and those they marry, not anyone else. That is not what the Sahaba taught. I don’t like that they said women of another faith weren’t allowed in. A salon just for women is great, but what is that saying about Islam? That we are exclusive? Islam is a message for everyone, not just those already Muslim. There is dawah in seeing Muslim women being themselves just as there is in seeing how they pray. I became a Muslim because the girls in Oman weren’t “exclusive” in their daily lives with me—they were willing to tell and show me just about anything. They didn’t say, you can’t come to this place because you aren’t Muslim. That might have been such a negative experience for me that I might have stayed away from learning more about Islam. I might have concluded, even after hearing the beautiful cry of the adhan, that Islam is only for Arabs, and those they marry, not anyone else. That is not what the Sahaba taught.

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